Hazon: The Jewish Lab for Sustainability, with Jakir Manela

What can each of us do to repair the world during this year of Shmita? Rabbi Lizzi welcomes Jakir Manela, CEO of Hazon: The Jewish Lab for Sustainability, for a conversation about how we can create a healthier, more sustainable, and more equitable world for all.

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Produced by Mishkan Chicago. Music composed, produced, and performed by Kalman Strauss.

Transcript

Transcript

Rabbi Lizzi  0:00  
Hi, Jakir

Jakir Manela  0:01  
 Hi, Lizzi. Hi. It's so great to see you.

Lizzi  0:04  
Yeah. Likewise,

Lizzi  0:06  
I am sorry to hear that your whole family is afflicted with the disease of the season. The season of the past two years. Thank you for talking to me.

Jakir  0:19  
Of course. I don't think I'm going to get pulled away by the kids. But I am the the healthy parent right now.

Lizzi  0:27  
Refua Shlema your whole fam. 

Unknown Speaker  0:29  
Thank you. 

Lizzi  0:30  
So you were just reminding me that...We met at a Jewish farm school training 15 years ago when I was in rabbinical school. And I was like, the baby Rabbi on a Jewish Farm School Alternative Break trip. And you were the educator at Pearlstone.

Jakir  0:48  
Yeah, it was probably a little bit less than that. I came to Pearlstone about 15 years ago, with my partner who is now my wife; today's our 15th anniversary, actually! It was right as we were moving to Pearlstone that got married.

Lizzi  1:02  
So, situate us: Where is Pearlstone? What is Pearlstone? Help us understand how Pearlstone fits into this movement of Eco-Judaism.

Jakir  1:15  
Happy to! And thank you for the invitation, really grateful to be here. I'm Jakir Manela,  he/him, coming to you from Baltimore, Maryland on Susquehanna and Piscataway land. I entered this work straight out of college and went to school up in your neck of the woods in Madison, Wisconsin, and spent some time in Chicago — a lot of friends and loved ones up there. I wanted to make Aliyah to Israel at that point, but felt even more deeply called to make aliyah to Isabel Friedman Jewish Retreat Center in Connecticut. It's really holy ground, the birthplace of this whole movement of Judaism centering the earth and agriculture and outdoor education. In the early 2000s, when I got there, the oldest Jewish outdoor environmental education program, Teva, had only been going for four or five years. And the Urban Adamah program, which is now this cornerstone, flagship Jewish farming and young adult program, a transformative experience, was just getting started. The very first person I met there when I got out of the car was my future wife. My wife and I are both from the DC area but we met there, at Friedman.

Lizzi  2:26  
Pearlstone is a Jewish retreat center like Isabel Friedman in many ways, which is just outside of Baltimore. They were looking at Friedman and asking, can we bring that magic to this land, this community? So Pearlstone called the folks at Friedman, who referred us, saying, here's some folks that are in your neck of the woods. We came to Pearlstone about 15 years ago to start a farm and to start a Jewish outdoor environmental education program.

Jakir  2:57  
A couple years later, my memory of meeting you, Lizzi, is there was a two foot snowstorm. You and some others were snowed in during this training. I think you were learning about how we're going to run these awesome trips like Alternative Breaks for Hillel students, and I came down to say "hi." There's been a lot of amazing groups that have come through Pearlstone. After leading the Jewish farming programs for a number of years, I got a big opportunity to become the executive director of Pearlstone about a decade ago. Over that past decade, Pearlstone has really grown a lot as a retreat center, as a farm, and as a Jewish education center. We serve the Mid-Atlantic region and the rest of the country, and actually the rest of the world because BWI Airport is  a major hubs. We get people coming from all over the place — Jewish groups and non-Jewish groups as well. I've had a chance to lead an amazing group of staff and have an amazing impact. Pre-COVID, we had 22,000 people every year in immersive retreats and Jewish outdoor education like hands on organic farming, ecosystem restoration, and community sustainability initiatives like off-site working with particularly Jewish institutions to lower their carbon footprint.

Jakir  4:13  
So, that brings us to Hazon. As a result of my work with Pearlstone, I was asked to be on their board. Hazon is the largest faith-based environmental organization in the country, working particularly within the Jewish community.

Lizzi  4:28  
Not just Jewish? The biggest faith-based environmental organization? What?!

Jakir  4:32  
Yeah, there are there's there's a wrinkle to this where like there's there are some big umbrella interfaith groups that are separate entities than their local chapters but because own really is as its own coherent entity and that was before this merger. So zone has really led the Jewish environmental movement now for many years itself merged with Isabel Friedman Jewish retreat center about eight years ago and I joined because on board right after that merger, and have been part of guiding because over the last number of years As a board member, and now that the tremendous one of a kind of visionary founder of the zone, Nigel Savage has decided to move on to next chapter in his his journey. I've been asked to and have had the great honor of leading so zone and pearlstone forward as these two organizations merge, really creating even more. So a major national Jewish umbrella organization leading the Jewish environmental movement. And the mission is to lead a transformative movement, deeply weaving sustainability into the fabric of Jewish life in order to create a healthier, more sustainable and more equitable world for all. So that's about culture change. I mean, I mean, Canty, Ilana Bhima Ravi, I made it like speedily in our days, right and, and so we're about culture change and systemic change through immersive retreats, Jewish outdoor food, farming, environmental education, and climate action. So that's what we're trying to do at pearlstone. We're trying to do it as well, Freeman we're trying to do across the country with ozone, and really just honored to be here with you to talk more about.

Lizzi  6:02  
That's incredible. And that's an incredibly daunting, that's an Donta a daunting prospect, the interest in charge of the largest movement of any faith based, any faith based organization doing environmental, climate, action, and sustainability. How many

Unknown Speaker  6:22  
other faith leaders every faith tradition, we were not, we're not trying to say we're, you know, running the whole whole faith world, I really have met some amazing leaders when I was in Glasgow, Scotland, for the United Nations climate change conference in November, we really Lizzie's just humbling to be in the room with like 50 or more faith leaders from all over the world, representing every possible tradition. Amazingly, I was the only Jewish representative, there was a whole Israeli delegation, which was awesome. But in terms of Jewish leadership, it was it was important to be there. And there's tremendous work happening in faith communities around the world. And we're, we're part of that movement.

Lizzi  7:02  
That's so important. That's so important. I'm so glad you were there. You were basically representing the American Jewish

Unknown Speaker  7:09  
community. Yeah. And it was, you know, I'm not trying to speak for all American Jews, I know that there are some disagreements amongst the American Jewish community. So I didn't want to pretend that this is what everyone agrees on. But as a as an organization, and as a movement that is really mobilizing Jews of all different kinds, all different ages, to connect to the natural world to fall in love with our home on planet Earth, and then do something about it, that I can speak to that like growing movement. And so that's what I was trying to bring in that space. And it was profound. You know, there's, there's an amazing quote, by this guy named Gus Beth, who was a founder of the World Resources Institute and World Wildlife Fund major sort of international environmentalist. And he said, You know, I used to think that the biggest problems around water problems were biodiversity and pollution and climate change. I thought that 30 years of science and advocacy would change it, and I was wrong. The greatest problems are greed and apathy and selfishness. And for that, we need a cultural and spiritual transformation and revolution. And that's, that's the room in Glasgow were like out in the, you know, major world leaders summit, they're talking, you know, what's the policy change, but without the cultural, ethical, spiritual revolution, we're not going to get there. And that's like, the part of the movement that we're, that we're invested in.

Lizzi  8:31  
Oh, I mean, I also that's, I think it's so important to remember that because those of us you know, sort of who don't run multinational corporations in the position to make policy changes that you know, have far you know, far reaching wide, wide reaching effects, you know, we're like recycling in our house or buying a hybrid car, you know, and we can think to ourselves what am I really doing, you know, what, what change Am I really part of, let's be honest, like, there's just one little me and maybe there are lots of little knees, but you know, at the end of the day, all of this, you know, these these systems, why that like, what am I going to do? And I think it's so important to be reminded that actually like the transformation of heart, that is also individual becomes cultural becomes national, and that without that nothing's, nothing's gonna

Jakir  9:22  
be Yeah, we have to we have to be able to go inside and like face the spiritual sort of part of ourselves or the culture sort of responsibility that we each have in building culture, hold our own place and responsibility and have faith that others are doing the same, but also link arms and mobilize and take action on a personal household, a communal and institutional and a societal level. And you know, that yes, that can feel that can feel daunting. But you know, that's what my favorite line easily in the in the poor Migaila is when Mordecai says Hey, this is this is who knows, maybe this is why you're here talking to Esther. And and, you know, it's maybe feels a little bit arrogant for us to say, well, we're we've been chosen for this moment, even if you don't feel that way, we are the ones that are on planet Earth now in this moment that get to be a part of the Great Turning the great change in our society that needs to happen again, culturally, spiritually, and politically and economically. And we were here, we can do it, we can do it. Oh,

Lizzi  10:27  
man, I needed this, I needed this, I needed this conversation with you. I'm curious to know who you turn to when you need, you know, when, when you're having moments of not not feeling like the inspiring change maker that, you know, you're called to be most of the time? Hold on to that question. Because was something and you know, as we talk about sort of the relationship between the individual sort of the tribe or the faith group, or whatever, and the society, so it makes me think of Shmita you know, that the year that we're in, and, you know, we've talked about it here and there. But honestly, as an urban community in Chicago, we don't have our own building, we don't have a lawn that we can let lay fallow for the year. So some of the, like agricultural implications of Shmita, you know, of course, like letting the land lay fallow, and, um, you know, debt remission, a lot of that stuff we haven't been able to operationalize, like on a community level, but we've like, talked about it a little bit here. And there. You've been both part of a Jewish farm, like literal farming, but also are now talking about sort of systems level shifts, I wonder how you're thinking about Shmita, you know, as something that can have relevance to, you know, people in Chicago or anywhere in the country where they're not farming?

Jakir  11:48  
Yeah. Yeah, I've thought a little bit about Shmita. Over the years, sweets is a big a big foundation of this movement, because it really holds in the same way. If you think about Shabbat as such an anchor in Jewish life. Shmita is Shabbat, exponentially, you know, multiplied both because right Shabbat, right exactly Shabbat at scale, and has such a radical social and environmental impact to to forgive all debt every seven years to release all and every seven years, really has a powerful potential. And, you know, it's radical, if there's all kinds of loopholes to avoid actually facing what it would mean for us. So I think it's one of the deepest teachings not just in our movement of Judaism and sustainability, climate and justice, but really actually one of the most deepest teachings in Torah becloud, in general. And, you know, one thing I taught a session on shmitah, before me to even in 2020, saying, you know, what, actually should be taught came early this time, not that COVID represent shmitah, but the level of disruption and paradigm shift that the world went through on a diamond many ways, obviously, you know, way this very tragic and a lot of suffering. But that's the level of change that shmitah kind of represents, and the way that we saw this outpouring of people like sharing food, the moratorium on on evictions, that's, I think that that's actually a way to think about Shmita in like right now, sort of parlons the potential to forgive student debt shmitah Like, these are ways that shmitah consciousness or as a teacher of mine, you got Deutscher. If you know, you know, you got in California, but he talks about sabbatical culture, how do we take the principles of this work and see it manifest in our world today? So things like, you know, a moratorium on evictions, or, or student debt forgiveness. Or just when we think about food policy, right, like, the farm bill is actually something like sweet too, if you think about me, too, as a multi year sort of Food Systems policy setup. That's what the Farm Bill does for us as a country, and food policy and urban agriculture policy, in Chicago, in cities around the country really set up an opportunity that we either take or we miss, to create societies where Shmita is possible, like what would it mean for us to create a society where food access and justice and relationship to economy and land is set up that we have the ability the opportunity to really create those levels of justice and community you know, every seven years but just like Shabbat you don't just like get to Friday afternoon and look at Shabbat you have to have a whole sort of rhythm. Same thing for shmitah Like how do we build over the course of six years to make that kind of society possible? And you know, I think COVID actually shows us that radical change is not just possible, it's necessary in the world that we live in.

Lizzi  15:07  
One of the things that I was most like, it was like hardest for me to believe. And also so amazed by was basically in the space of a month, you know, when air travel had basically tanked and like nobody was flying, and nobody was traveling and, and, you know, my friends in LA were like, I can see this guy, you know, and and like, and and it turns out that like, globally, you know, carbon emissions were like, I don't know what it was, it was some insane percent, it wasn't like 15% or 20%. It was like, you know, the numbers went completely the opposite direction. It was like, Oh, my God, we, we have what we need to do to reduce carbon emissions, we can do it. Yeah. And then the second, it became possible to return to status quo, pre COVID. Yeah, more people are traveling now than they were before. You know, and, and it's so interesting, because like, I know, people who work in the airline industry, they were terrified. You know, I mean, it's so many. And like that there's the fear and the loss and the grief that goes along, you know, of everyday people whose lives are invested in the systems as they currently exist. It's scary to actually think of doing what we need to do to create the world. We need to create.

Jakir  16:23  
Yeah. So I have two books I've read recently, which I highly want to recommend in this in this topic. So one is a Jewish Book. Jonathan Safran foyer, we are the weather.

Lizzi  16:37  
Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. To say more. Yeah.

Jakir  16:41  
Well, just it's such a poignant voice of an American Jewish millennial somewhere, right? Like, grappling with, again, like the moral personal spiritual crisis, in facing what this what this means the climate crisis, and like, particularly in an American Jewish, like, descendant of Holocaust survivor, just like the cultural paradigm and mill you that this sort of resonates in, and it's so deep and, and moving. And it's, I would say, it's a hard read, but it's like very, it's very moving. It's very touching. And then on a very different and much more recent level. There's a book that just came out on that not too long ago called on the Ministry for the future. By Kim Stanley Robinson, this is a sci fi not really sci fi, cuz it's like, very predictive. Yeah, Kim Stanley Robinson is the is the author. It's basically like 2025 2030 through 2060. What might happen in terms of climate, some of it's really hard, generally, it's very hopeful. And when you talk about, like, what would it take for us to create that society, whether it's Shmita society or a livable climate, Livable Future? This book, it's a novel, so it's really it's a good read, and it really sort of lays out like, What could this mean for us? And and it really sort of calls upon us to be like, Well, we actually actually really have to confront what does money mean, what's the point of our society? How do we want to live together? You know, and and it's a, it's a powerful book, so I want to share those in light of what you're saying here. Really, really? Oh,

Unknown Speaker  18:20  
thank you. Thank you. Um, I mean, I, let's talk about the Jewish calendar a little bit, because the Jewish calendar, I once I once learned, like, there are three, sort of like three levels the Jewish calendar operates on one is agricultural, one is moral. And when one is like, sort of, like almost whatever you want to do with it, sort of like spiritual, symbolic, you know, and so for some holidays, that might have started out as strictly agricultural, you know, like the different Huginn, which are based on, you know, like Sukkot is about the in gathering of produce, and, you know, Passover about like spring seedlings, so they might have started out as agricultural and they sort of then become more spiritual, symbolic. But I wonder if you could, if you could sort of situate us on the calendar right now, where we are we just finished poor and we're heading into Passover. It has agricultural implications, but also maybe sort of spiritual, symbolic, definitely moral, spiritual, symbolic. And to bring some of what you're thinking about with the holidays on the calendar forward.

Unknown Speaker  19:24  
Thank you. Thank you. Is he it's it is the calendars such a profound tool and experience for us to live with in such a gift, such a blessing, I think about we're just in the aftermath of Purim now. And Purim is such a deep, you know, experience of Is it a children's holiday? Is it just sort

Unknown Speaker  19:47  
of funny Sure, I've decided this year, it's not a children's holiday, like the only reason why we have kids dress up is to get them to the place where they can grapple with the really challenging story that is totally an adult story.

Unknown Speaker  19:58  
Yeah, yeah. I think it's Right, there's totally that like entry level sort of, right. It's, it's safe. It's fun. It's cute. And it's really deep, really profound. And I've been thinking a lot about it lately this year as this is the first story in exile. This is a story of us living in the diaspora and confronting unique challenges and opportunities that that happened in that context. And it's, it's kind of messy, right? It's, it's, and that is happening in the seasonal context of early spring. It's happening just a few months after Hanukkah, Hanukkah and POM are often sort of thought of together in this. You know, the cheap line is they tried to kill us. We won let's eat. So like that, that that genre. But there's a deep

Unknown Speaker  20:48  
over to Right. Absolutely. Right.

Unknown Speaker  20:51  
I mean, a lot. So, so. So there's that arc, between Chanukah and Purim. Purim is like just early spring, it's a little bit after too much fat when the first blooms start to come. But it's this feeling of spring fever, like starting to feel like you're you're you can see it I know Chicago is a little bit colder than we are in Baltimore. But yeah, I still have some version winters

Unknown Speaker  21:15  
over it keeps being like he was being you know, cold and then warm, and then it gets cold again,

Unknown Speaker  21:21  
totally we do that do when I was a school in Madison, it would be like, when it's like 45 degrees 50 degrees in March, April, or may people are like, it's shirt, it's shorts and no shirt outside, like, we're portrayed to get like summertime. So the the early spring, really like spring fever has that that impulse, that energy that creates this almost sense of wildness in quorum, and by the time we get to pass over to Pacer, it's the barley harvest, there's a much I think I want to say more formal, there's like we have now sort of clarity moving out of slavery and into freedom into Egypt going into the desert. And there's a there's an arc that goes through where spring now is this like, as yet sort of an on still about emergent, we haven't seen the seed sort of break the surface of the Earth yet, but you can feel the anticipation rising, and you still feel some of that poor energy and Passover rd actually harvesting things. And, and I a friend said to me the other day Lizzi that, you know, the level of climate crisis that we're feeling and seeing now scientists are sort of saying is clear in front of us, we actually need to start thinking about in the paradigm of Pisa, that we're going out into the desert, and we're entering a generation of uncertainty and challenge, what's the level of resilience that we need to build for ourselves individually and communally and as a society, to go into a period of challenge and uncertainty. And I think that sort of level of what pisaq demands of us of freedom and clarity, but also like a certain level of resilience and preparedness is is a deep challenge that I'm going to be thinking about, I need a month to like prepare for that to come out of the energy of Purim. And sort of like prepare myself for that interview with pizza.

Unknown Speaker  23:15  
That's really interesting. You know, because part of the Purim story, the part of the story that I think is most uncomfortable, especially for comfortable American Jews, is the the part where not only do we resist, you know, resist genocide. But we actually kind of we take revenge, we go from like, a totally appropriate reaction mode, which is self defense, to a kind of a to a resistance, which is beyond resistance, you know, which we look at, and we go no, no, we don't want to be like, like those Jews. Like we imagine ourselves maybe more moderate, more like we would, you know, we would have made different choices, and it wouldn't have ended up so badly for our neighbors and we could have felt like we just we just defended ourselves. That's always like,

Unknown Speaker  24:03  
and this is like Hanukkah, right? Like, oh, it's kinda like the candles. No, it's actually like the Maccabees were murdering the assimilated Jews.

Unknown Speaker  24:12  
Yes. And so like we pass over, I feel like you get, you know, the opportunity to think sort of, like in the in the way that you're thinking, which is okay, we've got a month of elite up toward this holiday, which is, it's premised on the same idea that, you know, sort of, like, you know, we're an oppressed minority. We are living in a world in which we are not safe. How are we going to create a world in which not only we are safe, but the air of ROV the people with us and around us are safe with us. Right? And that we, you know, sort of move into a new reality, you know, promised land and we can envision it, we can see it and we're moving that direction and we can and we're planning for it. You know, and that like this month leading into Passover really has the opportunity to be sort of thinking along the lines that you are describing. So it's not just about like cleaning out my house from all the little crumbly crumbs. But like, what does that symbolize? If we're talking about moving into a period of uncertainty, that's like the wilderness of the new Climate Reality?

Unknown Speaker  25:13  
Yeah. And and in this moment, we're also, we think, preparing to like, now we're going to enter the next chapter of COVID, or post COVID? Or like, what is the new normal? The new reality? How do we, how do we prepare ourselves to be back in public space? Again, I know there's a spectrum of how people participate in this, but the world is evolving dynamically. Now, obviously, we see tragic, horrific, you know, violence happening, what's the new international order that's developing, like there's a bigger series of changes that have just unfolded sort of nonstop over the last few years, that just again gives a sense of like, we're unmoored, we're not we're not you know, we've we've sort of left the dock and we're, we're sailing into uncharted waters here.

Unknown Speaker  26:06  
Indeed, indeed, we are. So I guess I'll come back now to the question I started to ask you earlier and with this will close, which is where do you turn for, for hope and inspiration and the motivation to keep doing what you do? Given you know, all of the reasons why one might feel despair, in the face of you know, the the future and that unchartered territory?

Unknown Speaker  26:32  
Well, Lindsay, I, I do want to tell you like, seeing your face and being uncovered to with you in dialogue with you hearing from you is like, I really cherish our relationship and your teachings. You are a rabbi for me, and for many others, and the teachings the friendship, the support that you provide, for me and for the Mishkan community. And for so many is so, so special. So I really want to thank you and send you love through this through this screen here. That Yeah, and you know, friends and community and teaching, so, so necessary for the soul. My family, my kids are, you know, keeping me grounded and focused on how am I supporting these precious? Four boys? We have ages four to 14, how am I supporting them and preparing them for what they're going to face? And, and so I try to keep it really like present, right? Where am I today? What's in front of me right now? How do I give love and focus and presence to this individual, this human to this tree to this sunset being present, you know, and then I also have the great blessing of being in this role where it's like, okay, here we are, what are we gonna do about it here. So I want to close by sharing this big new initiative that's not even public yet. But for you from each town, we want you to know about it. And, you know, be excited about this come and actually to Chicago will be a big moment of releasing this in the fall at the GA, which will be in Chicago this year, that the General Assembly of the Jewish Federations of North America, which is when we're going to be publicly launching this thing called the Jewish Climate Leadership Coalition. So leading up to this, I was talking about this UN conference climate that I went to, yeah, leading up to during one time I was there. And then afterwards, as you might imagine, because I don't got heard from a lot of people, what are we gonna do? What What should we do and some of those entities are local, and some are national. And so in my new role, which I've just been in, like six months here, I took the opportunity to reach out to basically the big national umbrella Jewish organizations Jewish Federation's in North America, and the JCC Association and the movements you RJ and, you know, big, big Jewish national organizations. And all these folks are signed on now to this coalition, establishing through a founding statement, this is a critical Jewish issue, we have to do something and more importantly, we're going to take action. So we're convening a National Leadership roundtable with liaisons from each of these national groups. And over the next few months, they're creating their own climate action plans, which they're going to release to the public this fall. At that point, you'll be able to see the climate action plans of these major Jewish organizations. And critically, we're then going to say, every Jewish or every everyone, not just Jews, but every Jewish organization we're targeting needs to create our own climate action plan. How are we going to cut our emissions in half by the next, you know, in the next Shmita cycle, or whatever the goals are, for every Jewish organization, we're not telling you what your climate action plan should be. But we can all do something. And I hope that when we get there this fall, I trust that you know, you Scott, and many others in Chicago and around the world will say yes, it's time to do that. And our role at gozone is going to be convening, facilitating, providing resources, providing support, guidance on how to do this work, and really saying, everybody get on board, we can do this. We got to make a plan. We got to make progress year over year and other faith communities are making that progress too. So the combination of sort of like the love the friendship, the family and the action that we can take together gives me gives me a lot of hope. So

Unknown Speaker  30:03  
that's Oh, that's so powerful yet care. You know, it's funny, because I feel like there's there's sometimes some hang hand wringing within the Jewish people about the fact that we're also fragmented at this point, you know, it used to be that we could agree on things, you know, I don't know, that's maybe like, like, some revisionist, right? Oh, yeah, some revisionist history. But like, what we could agree that we needed to support and defend Soviet Jews, like we could agree that we needed to support and defend Israel, we could agree. And that, like, some of those assumptions are really no longer true anymore, you know, because times have changed. But it seems like this is an issue that we can all actually get behind and should get behind with an immense amount of force and bring all of our force to it.

Unknown Speaker  30:50  
Oh, man, the whole male death, as we say, in the Shamal, right, with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your might. And it's a moment where it merits that and there's gonna be all kinds of subgroups in architecture, we're going to create a whole movement for it, and just grateful to be walking by your side and everybody just kind of along this path. So thank you. Thank you for having

Unknown Speaker  31:08  
me. Thank you. Oh, this was so inspiring. Thanks, get here.

Lizzi  31:12  
Much love. Shabbat shalom, 

Unknown Speaker  31:14  
Much love.

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